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Revised XOOPS Roadmap

Posted by onokazu on 2002/10/14 17:54:48 (7222 reads) | Posted on XOOPS
A short while back, XOOPS published a roadmap of what the future might hold. Now that we've had some time to digest and refine this strategy, here's an updated roadmap for the next release.

Please read on for more....

1. With all the new features added to XOOPS over the past several months, we felt compelled to revise the version number to RC4.0 from 3.1

2. A significant architectural change due to the inclusion of the Smarty Templating System within the core product

3. An updated blocks system that works better with the Smarty Templating System
- You can select which page a block should be displayed on now
- Any block contents can be cached by Smarty with settable caching expirations
- Selectable block templates when adding new blocks
- Create any number of copies of a block

4. A new debugging system has been implemented

5. Image Manager - This will allow you to upload images for inclusion in news articles, forum posts, etc. This module will also help in organizing images through categorization features.

6. A few modules have been removed from the core package (Visitors2, Quotes, Epehemrides)

7. The Whosonline module will be replace with a "lighter" blocks version

8. A new headlines module will be added to the core with RSS 2.0 support and template files

9. Configuration options will now be stored in the DB eliminating the need for cache files and directories

10. Automation of module configuration
- The system will automatically generate a configuration form based on the contents of xoops_version.php

11. Old themes will continue to work with XOOPS and non-Smarty modules

12. Fully redesigned core class files structure utilizing design patterns

13. Faq, forums, links, and downloads modules are now converted to utilize the Smarty Templating system. This will allow designers and/or site admins to completely change the appearance of these modules.

That's all we have now and we hope this will give you a basic idea of what the next version will look like.

Regards,
XOOPS Team


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Now that sounds like what we need!!!
Nice going onokazu and the rest of the devs.

One little question (and apologies in advance lol). Will that links/downloads/reviews modules I saw mentioned somewhere be in the next release?
Posted: 2002/10/14 19:27 • Updated: 2002/10/14 19:27
lykoszine
No, the supermodule is due to be released in the final version
Posted: 2002/10/14 19:34 • Updated: 2002/10/14 19:34
destrux
!!Image Manager WOW! Thats a leap for Xoopsters.
But one question guys.. what about content management?
I am so looking forward to a core functionality that will help me add HTML pages with automatic pagebreaks, navigation buttons etc.

Please take into concern sites that have huge amounts of reading content. Right now I can't put them anywhere..
Add a little module please that can take care of external pages or atleast modify the news module to handle a lots of text with automatic navigation bars...

Thanks Guys.
Jagan Mohan
Posted: 2002/10/15 2:48 • Updated: 2002/10/15 2:48
Fireater
Into the super module
Posted: 2002/10/15 5:09 • Updated: 2002/10/15 5:09
w4z004
Quote:
Into the super module


I love the name of the module
Posted: 2002/10/15 6:55 • Updated: 2002/10/15 6:55
xtremdj
Any idea (ok, I know it's stupid), rough estimation of the release date?

What happens if we used modules which were removed from the core?
Posted: 2002/10/15 7:54 • Updated: 2002/10/15 7:54
lubdub
It's all very promising.

#5 seems very nice... Image Manager.

#9 elimination of directories and cache, preferences in DB, seems like it will go a long way towards eliminating CHMOD questions in the forum.

#5 and #9 may eliminate the need for FTP altogether, after XOOPS is installed?

#13 I assume the FAQ/Downloads/Links module is different from the News/Sections module? Or is it all one big super module?

If I were going to have a complaint, it would simply be that there are so many new features, I'm concerned about how long I will need to wait.

I wonder if it is feasible to break it into smaller chunks so that a Smarty version can be released sooner... which in turn would tend get the module developers in the process of updating their mods.

Other than that, though, it all sounds like good news.
Posted: 2002/10/15 12:06 • Updated: 2002/10/15 12:06
sunsnapper
A wiki module would help a lot in this regard.

Ideal features for such a module:
- allow raw HTML
- only module admins can edit pages
- block show a selected list of pages (a menu into your wiki)
- blocks for other wiki stats (last changes, most read, ...)
- attachements and easy image inclusion


Posted: 2002/10/15 12:07 • Updated: 2002/10/15 12:07
mariuss
The image manager is GREAT tool. You all will like it! But it is only for the images for now! Nothing more!

It is not possible to split the new RC up, because the Smarty integration is the main part of this new RC.
Posted: 2002/10/15 12:22 • Updated: 2002/10/15 12:22
chapi
13 is just a temporary fix/enhancement to the existing modules. We will be replacing them in the final version with the new xoops sections module.

We've already started some initial bug tests, so it's not that long way until the release from now, i hope.
Posted: 2002/10/15 12:48 • Updated: 2002/10/15 12:48
onokazu
RC3 dosen't it mean Release Candidate?

If yes, then there are way too many features added at this stage. Ideally for a Release Candidate there shoud be no new features at all. Adding features just make the product unstable.

I am more than happy to see all these features, but it may be better to get a stable 1.0 out and then work on 2.0.

My 2 cents.
Posted: 2002/10/15 20:25 • Updated: 2002/10/15 20:25
mariuss
Yes, RC means Release Candidate. But why can't this one be stable at all ? The RC3 is really working without any big bugs. And this will be improved with the RC4.

And there are not much features in this RC. The main things were changed in the core code!

onokazu and the rest are doing a great job. You all will be surprised what they come out with ...

Posted: 2002/10/15 20:42 • Updated: 2002/10/15 20:42
chapi
I think your misreading what we're doing here. XOOPS itself is only picking up a few features, not a lot. What's really benefiting here is a lot of behind the scenes work to clean up xoops even more.

As far as bugs are concerned, our track record speaks for itself. For a open source CMS we have relatively few bugs and almost zero exploits compared to the other CMS's out there.


Posted: 2002/10/15 22:49 • Updated: 2002/10/15 22:49
Boobtoob
Tomorrow I am launching a community site based on Xoops, I do have faith in it. Please don't take it as a criticism.

Changing the template engine does feel like a major thing to me, I could be wrong of course. There are lots of templates created for RC3 and now you will need others for RC4. Yes, I know, it will work with RC3 templates as well, but still, it will create lots of confusion.

One major point were I see the focus should be is documentation. There are lots of modules and themes but because of the lack of proper documentation the quality of many of them is low. The Xoops community would be better off with a stable release and good docs so people can start writing more high quality modules.

Once again, I really apreaciate your work. Please take all this as the observations of an outsider.

Cheers,
Marius
Posted: 2002/10/15 23:30 • Updated: 2002/10/15 23:30
mariuss
That's all fine. But what's the timeframe?
Posted: 2002/10/16 7:44 • Updated: 2002/10/16 7:44
Tiran_Kenja
Glad to hear it and welcome to the XOOPS clan. The Smarty implementation is more of an evolutionary step necessary to seperate HTML from PHP. This one thing alone will make it MUCH easier for people to create themes with simple tools like Dreamweaver obviating the need for deep theme documentation.

While I say that doc isn't as relative with Smarty for designers (a cheat sheet with smarty variables is all that's really needed), we do plan on create dev doc but have heasitated becuase the code is in such flux all the time. I think once you see 1.0 hit the site, then you'll see doc to follow.

Just hang in there and doc will follow. It's an evolutionary step as well.

Regards,
Eric
Posted: 2002/10/16 14:15 • Updated: 2002/10/16 14:15
Boobtoob
at this moment a timeframe can't be given. Code changes all the time, new bugs found, old bugs fixed. Just be patient..
Posted: 2002/10/16 19:53 • Updated: 2002/10/16 19:53
destrux
I know you guys are working hard on RC4, I do not doubt that for one moment. I also must say that Xoops is an extraordinary development. Everbody I show, falls in love with it.....now if only I could be so lucky....Sorry, I digress .
I have just been informed by a responce to my previous post (Thank you w4z004) that SSL login will be included in RC4 (all my Christmas's are about to arrive at once). I just have to ask, are we talking weeks...or months? I just gotto know...but I promise not to hold you to any dates.
Also, you have my email address, I would be prepared to help in testing if this helps speed up the process? I already have a number of Xoops sites and more on the way
Well, that was long winded but to summarise;
When? When? When? When? When?
and job well done this far.
Oh, did I mention when?


Thanx to all the development team for all the efforts put into this project.

John
Posted: 2002/10/27 9:55 • Updated: 2002/10/27 9:55
jrc