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World of XOOPS Newsletter, edition 6

Posted by m0nty on 2005/6/10 15:00:00 (24888 reads) | Posted on World of Xoops (WOX)
World of XOOPS Newsletter, edition 6

This is the Sixth (6th) issue of the World of XOOPS Newsletter, where the XOOPS News Team informs you about their work, and gives you an overview of the recent additions to the XOOPS system, done by our great community.

In this issue:

World Of XOOPS
It´s been a long while since the last World of XOOPS Newsletter, and there have been many developments since then of which I am going to summarize in this section.

1st off this issue I would like to inform you of the recent re-organization of xoops.org and what effect this will have on the future of XOOPS.
As you maybe aware there have been many discussions lately on the forums regarding how XOOPS is managed. Earlier this year the XOOPS Core Team announced the creation of the XOOPS Foundation. The primary objective of the Foundation is to facilitate, support and promote the use, development and support communities of the XOOPS project. The Foundation is an open and transparant organisation that represents all of XOOPS. Now it's up to all of us to use the Foundation to it's maximum benefit.

A new organisation model
The organisation model that the XOOPS Foundation offers is based on that of another very healthy and active open source development project: the Apache Software Foundation, but has been adapted to our situation and needs. The XOOPS Foundation is the 'umbrella' under which collective projects can be placed and managed. To make it more managable and transparant, the organisation will be more project oriented. Anyone can start a new project.
Requirements for projects are simple: they need to add something to the XOOPS collective, it needs to be open, it needs to have goals and a plan (the roadmap), and it needs to communicate.
The Foundation Board will review every application for approval, and provide the means, if possible (server space, funds etc.), making the projects 'official xoops.org projects'.
Every project or team appoints itself a Captain, who will be part of the XOOPS Management Team. The XOOPS Management Team is responsible for intra-project management and general magament of xoops.org.
The Foundation Board is responsible for the main roadmaps and general strategy. We already have a couple of teams working together on making the XOOPS system and community work better, These are:

QA - Quality Assurance Team
The role of the QA Team is to provide quality assurance testing on modules, they will test modules to see if they do what they say they do and also provide feedback to developers regarding results.
For more information on what the QA Team is responsible for, or if you would like to assist, please contact the QA Team Captain Dave_L.

Marketing & Communications Team
This team is responsible for creating a strategy for our external marketing and communications, and defining activities in order to improve the visibilty of XOOPS outside of our community.
Team captain is wtravel

Liaisons Team
The Liaisons team is responsible for communicating with local support site representatives (Ambassadors) to provide them with the latest news from xoops.org and relaying information from each support site so that everyone is made aware XOOPS.
Captain of this team is JDSeymour

WOX Team
The WOX team are responsible for actually producing news and presenting it to the community in a timely fashion, this includes news from local support sites if it is relevant to XOOPS as a whole.
Team captain is M0nty

XOOPS Documentation Team
Lets not forget the wonderful work the Docs Team has done the past year under the guidance of Carnuke! They have created quite a bit of documentation, but they can always use more help!

XOOPS Dev Teams
Of course we also have the XOOPS 2.x core dev team lead by Mithrandir, the XOOPS4 Dev project which is lead by Skalpa, and the module development forge.

XOOPS is looking for help!
We are looking for people who are willing to help us out with the teams above, and with other tasks such as moderating the forums, maintaining the Theme Library and Links page, maintaining and moderating the XOOPS FAQ, or other projects you'd like to start.
Please contact the Team Captains or Herko or Mithrandir if you have any ideas for projects.


XOOPS Developments
Mithrandir is very busy lately developing the next version of XOOPS which will be labelled XOOPS 2.2, you maybe wondering why XOOPS 2.2 and not XOOPS 2.1. The reasoning behind this is to use Linux based versioning where Alpha/Beta (non stable or development) releases are released with odd number versions and Stable/Final releases will contain even numbers.
So XOOPS 2.2 will be the stable version and XOOPS 2.1 is a non stable development version. All future versions of XOOPS will use this method of identification. XOOPS 2.2 is expected to be finished by June 30th but this is a general date and is not final.
From XOOPS 2.1 there will be no modules included as before with previous versions, core modules in this version will mainly just be the system modules such as Profile and PM module and other core functions which will be more modulised instead of being a part of the actual core, this will provide a more flexible and diverse system to work with for developers and users alike. A new admin interface with improved navigation and more powerful user interface than previous, it will also be themeable so that you can customise the looks of not only the front page of your site but also the admin area itself. To view the 2.2 Roadmap click here

Skalpa is working on the future version of XOOPS which many will know is to be called XooSphere, XooSphere is essentially XOOPS 4 and is being designed from scratch, it will probably not be released till next year at least. So what does Xoosphere have in store for you? You'll be surprised non the least. To find out more and to view the Xoosphere roadmap please click here. More on XooSphere will be provided as & when information is available.

Mithrandir is currently looking for experienced programmers to help with the 2.2 release and future versions who can dedicate some time into the project. Phppp, Marcan, & Hervet have also joined the XOOPS Core Development Team which is good news and I’m sure their experience, skills and dedication will make XOOPS a far better system than it already is. It is also very good news to hear that Catzwolf aka John_N has returned to XOOPS as a Core Development Member. For a more technical explanation of what is going on, please read Skalpa's draft reference for the X2.2 core, posted on the SourceForge.net project forums.

I'd like to thank everyone who has contributed to XOOPS (the list is long!), released a hack, module and/or theme (see below for the lists), made a donation (also see below), and to those that helped the people who had questions or needed help on the forums. It's not for nothing that we say:
XOOPS: Powered by You!


Local Support News (in brief)
XOOPS France has confirmed it's millionth visitor since it first started 6 months ago when it merged with 3 other french XOOPS sites. XOOPS France has fast become a haven for French XOOPSers and has at last count over 15,000 members & over 400 registered XOOPS sites in it's directory. You can view the announcement here (in french) or visit their website by clicking here. We'd like to thank Alain, philou, solo, christian & hervet for their support and for making XOOPS France what it is today.


Xooper of the Month: PHPPP
Xooper of the month is a new section in the wox, replacing 'Site of the month' as we felt that it will provide a more communal area to the newsletter by focussing more on the community itself. For our 1st Xooper of the month we decided on Phppp.
As you are aware phppp is very active in the XOOPS community, so we asked him a few questions (below)

m0nty: You've been an active developer for XOOPS for quite some time, when did you 1st start to use XOOPS and what reasons did you choose it over other CMS?

phppp: In Jan 2004, it was the first time that I was told of a CMS named "XOOPS" when being asked by a friend to choose a program for him, XOOPS was suggested as a candidate. I had played with a variety of stand alone PHP scripts and been maintaining several community sites. I was so excited to find such a flexible, extensible system, just an ideal framework for both PHP+MySQL study and production site. Since then, I have been a XOOPS geek. Apart from technical considerations, goghs, the creator of XOOPS has inspired me from the beginning as he is from my country and we have a similar family background.

m0nty: Do you have any tips you could offer to new XOOPS users to help them get all they can out of using XOOPS for their websites?

phppp: As a developer, I have no extensive experiences in building XOOPS sites. However, as a local support webmaster, I wish my suggestions could be helpful to new XOOPS users. First, get XOOPS installed successfully: English users are lucky to have XOOPS FAQ and the biggest support forum at xoops.org. For other language users, just feel free to ask for help at your local support site, do not be shy. Second, choose proper modules: For a production site, the simpler the better. Ask advice from your local support site or check Yet Another XOOPS Site (YAXS) at xoops.org to get a reasonable module candidate list. Don't forget "Site of the Month" presented in previous WOX.
Good news, Mithrandir and his team are preparing packages for different application purposes. Themes, really a hard choice. Be careful, playing with themes could make XOOPS an addiction to you:) I would strongly recommend the XOOPS Stand Alone Server (XSAS), either as a sandbox for webmasters or as debug toolkits for developers.

m0nty: What do you think of the support of the XOOPS Community? Do you feel that XOOPS provides better support than other CMS programs and do you think it could be improved at all?

phppp: Powered by you! XOOPS has the most active and fast growing community. A XOOPS user can always get timely help from the community. I am extremely glad to learn that, besides a technical support community, several management teams are just kicking-off, including teams of WOX, News, promoting, and more. Power of the community will for sure make XOOPS management effective and benefit the community as return.

m0nty: You have contributed some great modules for the XOOPS community such as the Digest module and Newbb2 aswell as your most recent CBB Forum based on Newbb2. As i read that CBB was meant for chinese users initially and with your departure from the Newbb development team, there is still some confusion with users regarding the status of these modules. Could you give any insight into the future of newbb or CBB as many users are wondering if CBB is to replace newbb officially?

phppp: I am proud having contributed several modules to XOOPS community and several for Chinese community, among of which NewBB 2 was the one that I had been loving most. It was a great collaboration with my friend Marko Schmuck since I joined the NewBB 2 Project. We had a very comfortable time and formed an effective work pattern.
In Feb, on a high request for customizing NewBB 2 from XOOPS Chinese community and with other concerns, I decided to quit NewBB 2 project and to focus on CBB and several other projects. It was a hard decision but I had to manage to continue my support and development life. CBB was meant to be a "Chinese version of NewBB" and I am glad to see it now targets a "Community Bulletin Board". NewBB 2 is a native module based on XOOPS codebase, highly object oriented and, most important, completely integrated with XOOPS framework.
Based on NewBB 2 and with great assistance from XOOPS community, including bug report, feature request and improvement suggestions, CBB is towarding a fast, secure, stable and user friendly forum product. To speed up the process, a project team is going to be established with coders, layout designers and graphics. It is not important whether CBB is going to be an official takeover of NewBB, but for sure CBB will be kept on the top of my priority. As the further development of NewBB 2, CBB is going to keep the dirname of "newbb" and I wish Marko will come back once everything is settled down.

m0nty: What developments are you working on at the moment (if any) or have you any new modules planned for the future? I hear WF-Sections 3 maybe on the go, can you tell us a little bit more about these projects?

phppp: I would like to use the same "C" from CBB to CMS, Community Management System. Wfsection 3 is another major module I am working on with WF Projects Team led by Eike. It is at internal test stage with some features: cross-category, easy-clone, interaction with other modules, XML support, basic/adv edit mode, and more. However, Wfs 3 is more like a conceptual project with some experiments for backend coding and front feature, and it will be expanded to a community based multi-use blog project "xblog", along with which remote content repository (expanded from XMLine module) and social bookmark will also be implemented.

m0nty: it's also good to hear that you have become a XOOPS core team member along with Hervet & marcan, this must be a welcomed move for you as i'm sure your skills and contributions will make XOOPS better for everyone.
phppp: It is a great pleasure that I have the chance to make contribution to XOOPS core. I hope we will help improve XOOOPS from various aspects based on our experiences.

m0nty: From a user point of view, what would you say is the best features about XOOPS?

phppp: XOOPS is a most competitive open source CMS and the first choice for Chinese and Asian users. Security, comprehensive permission system, easy to install and convenient/active community support are among the biggest contributors.

m0nty: and from a developers point of view?

phppp: As a developer, I stay with XOOPS for I could not find a better framework that provides well designed architecture allowing me just to focus on application development. And the lead developers provide XOOPS with promising and reliable perspective.

Thanks for taking the time to do this interview, and for your continued support of xoops.

Additionally, Phppp is looking for Users to help him with development of CBB in various areas
if you are interested in joining the CBB team then please contact him or click HERE to view the news article.


XOOPS International Support Sites

Have you made a hack for the XOOPS core (not any of the modules!)? Please submit your hacks to the core system, to the XOOPS Patch Tracker on the SourceForge.net project pages.


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Current members: 30957   |   Total Topics: 24436   |   Total Posts: 113074


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Nice Newsletter m0nty. Great to see a new issue of the WOX.
Published: 2005/6/10 16:52 • Updated: 2005/6/10 16:52
O pior é que as pessoas demoram demais para entender as coisas, todos sabem que muitos colaboradores foram tolidos quandos herdaram do giba estigmas sobre algumas pessoas... inveredaram na idéia dele e se mostram igual ou pior que ele quando julgaram sem apurar os fatos.

Foram inúmeras as minhas tentativas de ajudar o XOOPS em comunidades, mas no contexto da coordenação, minhas idéias batiam de frente com os interesses individuais pelo mercado do XOOPS, que amadoramente acabou por não amadurecer. Ora, todos nós sabemos aqui que havia uma tendência de comando, uma vontade de direcionar as coisas, causar polêmicas em torno de ética e para que? Ora para apontar um modelo, um sujeito baixo e sujo.

Eu da minha parte tenho nojo disso tudo, primeiro uma comunidade me detonou, depois tiver que provar que aquilo era injusto, depois a outra me detonou sem aurgumento algum o que e pior, e depois de base eu resolvi me afastar de tudo. Todo esses projetos de lingo, demo etc. eu tentei, e sempre houve má vontade, até que um dia viram que o erro não podia persistir e ai puseram em prática essas idéias, quem tem o meu primeiro post verá que tudo o que esta acontecendo eu vaticinei, e sem vaidade nenhuma. Sempre achei e continuo achando que ninguem tem a obrigação de trabalhar por ideal em relação ao Software Livre e sim é uma forma econômica de se valorizar no setor e se fazer presente.

Fiquei muito furioso quando um sujeito denigre a imagem de um amigo meu, coisa que ninguem teve a honradez de fazer ao meu favor, eu tenho em relação a ela que considero bastante e tenho certeza de que se uma pessoa tem um bom caráter jamais entra lá naquele antro de sangue-sugas.


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Que nada, ninguém tá invadindo o XT
é apenas o Giba editando posts, ele adora ficar mexendo no site até estragar tudo, dai chama o Topet0, que ingenuamente vai arrumar a eca que ele fez.

Sei que ninguém tá entendendo nada, e nem pode mesmo, o fato é que o cara não tá nem aí para uma comunidade livre e sim unicamente em comercializar seu modulos que faz pra xoops.


Pra quem ainda não entendeu, o XT é do Giba, uma ferramenta da empresa dele e não uma comunidade livre. Livre, é apenas o pensamento tutoriais, dicas e documentos que cada um editou lá e só isso.

Essa bagunça que vcs veem no XT é um problema crônico, e foi o que desmotivou dezenas de colaboradores. Ninguém gosta de ver o trabalho que fez no tempo livre, com carinho e dedicação, ser desfeito sem o mínimo de consideração.

O Giba pode ser um cara simpático, atencioso com amigos e funcionários e as pessoas que podem dar algum retorno financeiro, mas o resto, ou seja,' nós '......se não somos possiveis clintes, automaticamente somos apenas pedra no sapato dele.

Ele tá errado, eticamente talvés, mas esse é o mundo dos negocios e é assim que é, doa a quem doer. Quem tem mais experiencia na vida sabe 98% das pessoas passam por cima das outras quando estão competindo, agem por interesse próprio e só isso. É a natureza humana.
Só posso dizer uma coisa a vcs....Bem vindo ao mundo!

Published: 2005/6/10 16:57 • Updated: 2007/11/16 18:07
Very cool to see a new newsletter!

I hope there are more that talk about new modules.

Cant wait for WoX7

Good work!
Published: 2005/6/10 17:07 • Updated: 2005/6/10 17:07
thanks for the comments :)

sorry about the link wilson, not exactly sure why that happened.. i'll make sure it's correct in future :)

@hyperpod

we chose to exclude those parts from the main newsletter and focus more on XOOPS itself and the community.

hopefully from next month i'll produce a seperate addition to the newsletter (but not actually as a newsletter) which will provide a more detailed list of themes, modules, hacks & other contributions by members with brief descriptions, and provide a link to those articles in the newsletter.

there's only a couple of us at moment who are working on the news team, so if anyone is willing to help make the news team progress then please don't hesitate to ask (preferable to be able to write and understand english without use of translators, but we can work on that if need be)
Published: 2005/6/10 18:44 • Updated: 2005/6/10 18:44
Hi m0nty!
You forgot the PERSIAN SUPPORT SITE!!!
thanks in advance!
Published: 2005/6/10 20:08 • Updated: 2005/6/10 20:09
sorry alitan.

have edited the newsletter all links correct now.

will make sure to doublecheck them in future
Published: 2005/6/10 20:43 • Updated: 2005/6/10 20:43
great WOX... thanks m0ntY
Published: 2005/6/10 21:04 • Updated: 2005/6/10 21:04
Want to provide XOOPS support for your language?
XOOPS Official Local Support Site Guidelines

The purpose of this document is to establish guidelines to standardized practices, and provide quality support to all users of the Official Local Support Sites.


1. All Local Support Sites, to become official, should have the desire and means to provide quality, current news and information about the XOOPS CMS.

2. All Official Support Sites will display an official support site badge, as specified by XOOPS.org, on their top page to signify their official status.

3. No strict guidelines as far as themes go. The Local Support Sites are free to develop their own image as long as the following items are adhered to:

a) The top page should include current news, information and recent forum post accessible by anonymous users. Registration can be required for posting, but the information should remain registration free.

b) No excessive pop up, or pop under adds. These types of adds are very irritating to users and should not be used on a XOOPS Official Support Site.

c) Site navigation should be clearly marked (legible fonts, easily understood link titles.)

d) A terms of use and privacy policy should be in place, and adhered to by the site administrators.

e) Graphics should be well optimized, to allow for quick loading of the site by dial up connections. And fall well within the bandwidth constraints of the hosting server.


4. Regular communication about local news, policies, events or issues should be communicated with the XOOPS Liaison team, or the WOX newsletter team for action and/or inclusion.


5. A local Ambassador (site representative) should be assigned to frequent the XOOPS.org website to keep abreast with current events, communicate with the Liaison Team, and help transfer the information obtained to the Local Support Site for translation and posting. Additionally there Should be an alternate Ambassador for each Official Support Site registered to handle the communication if the other is unavailable. XOOPS.org would need current contact information for both the Ambassador and alternate Ambassador from each Official Support Site.


6. Any locally developed modules, modifications, themes, offered on the local support site, should be communicated to the XOOPS.org QA and/or Liaison Team for possible translation for usage by other nationalities. With the goal of making XOOPS.org a central repository for international distribution.


7. Official Local Support Sites will not charge a fee for support (or extra support). Donations are fine, but the support is a community effort and should remain free to all users. There shall be no penalties or reduced access to information for non donating members.

8. XOOPS.org prides itself in offering the highest standards of applications and free support. Official Support Sites should make all efforts to present XOOPS in a positive manner. At times there will be conflicts, or matters beyond anyones control.
If an issue comes up that needs to be addressed, please immediately report it to the XOOPS Liaison Team for action. XOOPS.org will address and rectify the issue with the utmost speed (with your help) so that all our users, administrators, and developers will be able to have an enjoyable experience using, learning, and developing XOOPS components.


9. If, for some reason the differences between XOOPS.org and the Official Support Site cannot be resolved after exhausting all avenues of resolution, XOOPS.org reserves the right to revoke the official status of the support site.

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domínio: xoops.net.br
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responsável: Gilberto Galdino (gibaphp)
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endereço: 04438-000 - SAO PAULO - SP
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remarks: Security issues should also be addressed to
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XOOPS Brasil.COM.BR = FOXTOTAL.COM.BR,
A GIBAPHP'S PAID WEBHOSTING.[/font][/color][/b]

Great OpenSource Support!


IMPORTANT: others domains owned by Giba:

domínio: helpgsystem.com.br
domínio: marciarosa.com.br
domínio: nuketotal.com.br
domínio: tormenta.com.br
domínio: xoops.net.br
----> domínio: xoopsmods.com.br
domínio: xoops.net.br
domínio: zencart.com.br


Now, check this other side of XOOPS Brasil:
http://www.xoopsmods.com.br/

Paid service from a support site?

In portuguese:Quote:
Para suporte Voluntário, não deixe de visitar HTTP://WWW.XOOPS Brasil.COM.BR. Este site deverá ser reaberto com novidades em relação a suporte PAGO, Desenvolvimento de MÓDULOS profissionais e CLONAGEM de módulos. Estes serviços serão cobrados e realizados por profissionais qualificados. Seja Bem-vindo ao XoopsMods o site do desenvolvimento PROFISSIONAL em Xoops. Você que pretende ajudar o XOOPS no Brasil, contrua a sua carreira e reputação auxiliando as comunidades de suporte ao XOOPS e um dia poderá fazer parte da exelente equipe montada no XoopsMods


Translated by Google: Quote:
For Voluntary support, it does not leave to visit HTTP://WWW.XOOPS Brasil.COM.BR.
This site will have to be reopened with new features in relation the PAID support, Development of professional MODULES and CLONAGEM of modules. These services will be charged and carried through by qualified professionals. Either Welcome to the XoopsMods the site of the PROFESSIONAL development in Xoops. You whom it intends to help the XOOPS in Brazil, contrua its career and reputation assisting the communities of support to the XOOPS and one day could be part of the excellent team mounted in the XoopsMods: -)



gOOGLE CACHE:
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache: ... 3A//www.xoopsmods.com.br/


This is not OpenSource! Why put a webhosting against the first Brazilian project?
Published: 2005/6/10 22:04 • Updated: 2005/6/10 22:47
I'm good with the terms!
As for the persian ambassador, I Am the second ambassador as I am in charge of the Persian support site now. If it is possible please inform me as well as The first ambassador.
Published: 2005/6/10 22:13 • Updated: 2005/6/10 22:13
Just a quick question:
Why this topic doesn't have any poster? did someone anonymous post it?
Published: 2005/6/10 22:15 • Updated: 2005/6/10 22:15
No - it was Monty - but for some reason the poster name reset
Published: 2005/6/10 22:20 • Updated: 2005/6/10 22:26
Quote:

Just a quick question:
Why this topic doesn't have any poster? did someone anonymous post it?


i posted it, but for some reason when i edit the post it keeps changing the poster to anonymous.
Published: 2005/6/10 22:25 • Updated: 2005/6/10 22:28
Here we go! Another bug! Also with comment system here, the links on the first page alwas refere to first page, no matter what link you click , it brings you to the first page of the news. anyway, too much off-topic!
Published: 2005/6/10 22:31 • Updated: 2005/6/10 22:31
Hi Mikhail,

The guidelines only stipulate for the soon to be changed to "Certified" support site. Any other sites that are operated, even by the webmaster may be done as they wish. These guidelines only apply to the site submitted as a partner to XOOPS.org.
Published: 2005/6/10 22:40 • Updated: 2005/6/10 22:40
For example - Mit has his own site where he develops paid projects using XOOPS - but he still works for XOOPS for free. This is a seperate project to his XOOPS work.
Published: 2005/6/10 22:44 • Updated: 2005/6/10 22:44
Quote:

Hi Mikhail,


Hi!

Quote:

The guidelines only stipulate for the soon to be changed to "Certified" support site. Any other sites that are operated, even by the webmaster may be done as they wish. These guidelines only apply to the site submitted as a partner to XOOPS.org.



YES! And I understand. But why put another (and commercial) support with the "biggest" non-english support????

And the paid service is from XOOPS Brasil too! please, look and try to understand the XOOPS Brasil guidelines via google translator:


Original:
http://www.xoops.net.br/modules/xt_conteudo/index.php?id=7


Translated:
http://translate.google.com/translate ... air=pt%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8

2,10 Spreading, Promotion and Advertising

Quote:
Messages with promocional character, of spreading or advertising executives will simply not be tolerated of form some in the Fórum, not to be that these have been express requested for the members. We make a rigorous control of this type of messages, and reserve the right to erase when to find them necessary. To make some spreading in the Fórum, or propagation of advertising, enters in contact with the department of promotion of the TOTAL XOOPERS. Messages divulging other projects, are allowed.



So, looks like an opensource support only if you are not another webhosting looking for help.

Sorry for my poor english, is very hard to write about it.... repetitions, tired.




XOOPS BRASIL:

21.000 members
more than 600 news
more than 200 articles
and a XOOPS server now with 600 modules and 600 themes.

So, another XOOPS Brasil is really really really necessary? WHY?!?!
Published: 2005/6/10 23:02 • Updated: 2005/6/10 23:07
regarding XOOPS Chinese support, I have been talking many times.
The last comment I made was "Take XOOPS seriously"
However, the same problem appears, again.

Take XOOPS seriously, please
Published: 2005/6/11 0:48 • Updated: 2005/6/11 0:48
O pior é que as pessoas demoram demais para entender as coisas, todos sabem que muitos colaboradores foram tolidos quandos herdaram do giba estigmas sobre algumas pessoas... inveredaram na idéia dele e se mostram igual ou pior que ele quando julgaram sem apurar os fatos.

Foram inúmeras as minhas tentativas de ajudar o XOOPS em comunidades, mas no contexto da coordenação, minhas idéias batiam de frente com os interesses individuais pelo mercado do XOOPS, que amadoramente acabou por não amadurecer. Ora, todos nós sabemos aqui que havia uma tendência de comando, uma vontade de direcionar as coisas, causar polêmicas em torno de ética e para que? Ora para apontar um modelo, um sujeito baixo e sujo.

Eu da minha parte tenho nojo disso tudo, primeiro uma comunidade me detonou, depois tiver que provar que aquilo era injusto, depois a outra me detonou sem aurgumento algum o que e pior, e depois de base eu resolvi me afastar de tudo. Todo esses projetos de lingo, demo etc. eu tentei, e sempre houve má vontade, até que um dia viram que o erro não podia persistir e ai puseram em prática essas idéias, quem tem o meu primeiro post verá que tudo o que esta acontecendo eu vaticinei, e sem vaidade nenhuma. Sempre achei e continuo achando que ninguem tem a obrigação de trabalhar por ideal em relação ao Software Livre e sim é uma forma econômica de se valorizar no setor e se fazer presente.

Fiquei muito furioso quando um sujeito denigre a imagem de um amigo meu, coisa que ninguem teve a honradez de fazer ao meu favor, eu tenho em relação a ela que considero bastante e tenho certeza de que se uma pessoa tem um bom caráter jamais entra lá naquele antro de sangue-sugas.


Quote:

Que nada, ninguém tá invadindo o XT
é apenas o Giba editando posts, ele adora ficar mexendo no site até estragar tudo, dai chama o Topet0, que ingenuamente vai arrumar a eca que ele fez.

Sei que ninguém tá entendendo nada, e nem pode mesmo, o fato é que o cara não tá nem aí para uma comunidade livre e sim unicamente em comercializar seu modulos que faz pra xoops.


Pra quem ainda não entendeu, o XT é do Giba, uma ferramenta da empresa dele e não uma comunidade livre. Livre, é apenas o pensamento tutoriais, dicas e documentos que cada um editou lá e só isso.

Essa bagunça que vcs veem no XT é um problema crônico, e foi o que desmotivou dezenas de colaboradores. Ninguém gosta de ver o trabalho que fez no tempo livre, com carinho e dedicação, ser desfeito sem o mínimo de consideração.

O Giba pode ser um cara simpático, atencioso com amigos e funcionários e as pessoas que podem dar algum retorno financeiro, mas o resto, ou seja,' nós '......se não somos possiveis clintes, automaticamente somos apenas pedra no sapato dele.

Ele tá errado, eticamente talvés, mas esse é o mundo dos negocios e é assim que é, doa a quem doer. Quem tem mais experiencia na vida sabe 98% das pessoas passam por cima das outras quando estão competindo, agem por interesse próprio e só isso. É a natureza humana.
Só posso dizer uma coisa a vcs....Bem vindo ao mundo!

Published: 2005/6/11 1:03 • Updated: 2007/11/16 18:07
Quote:
wcrwcr Posted: Oh no....here comes the kid again. Jesus Christ!


Sem discussão com o garoto macaco, não vou perder meu tempo. Faça o mesmo e vá procurar suas bananas no WC. Argumentos, por favor. Argumentos.


Quote:

Comunicado

A empresa LACA(Lar de Apoio a Criança e Adolescente) inscrita sob o CNPJ 04.274.350/0001-05, vem comunicar respeitosamente aos senhores utilizadores hospedados na empresa MÃE DO RIO INFORMÁTICA LTDA, e então conhecida como BRASIL HOSTWEB que tem como responsável o Sr. Mauricio Lima, que esta EMPRESA BRASIL HOSTWEB estava usando indevidamente o CNPJ da empresa acima referida. Sentido-se lesada pela má fé do responsável citado a cima, a empresa estará repassando os domínios para a empresa DekSite Internet Solutions - Servidores Web. Para maiores informações entrar em contato com os seguintes:

MSN: suporte_geral@hotmail.com

ICQ: 270914389

AIM: DEKSITE

E-Mail: deksite@deksite.com.br

(Lembrando aos senhores utilizadores que o ato cometido pela empresa BRASIL HOSTWEB caracteriza ação de má fé e que poderá acarretar ao Sr. Mauricio Lima complicações judiciais).

Atenciosamente,
Tiago de Souza
(Administrador: DekSite Internet Solutions - Servidores Web)

Published: 2005/6/11 2:12 • Updated: 2005/6/11 2:27
@phppp: that's very odd, because I am 100% sure that I changed that already to your site! I'll change it again now... this is getting weirder and weirder...

@mikhail: I can get free support at XOOPS Brasil, so it doesn't matter thy provide paid services as well. And this is your final warning. If you flame about this again (you literally use every chance you get without any respect or regard for purpose and effect). If you do this again, your website will be taken off the list! This warning goes to XOOPS Brasil too! No more 'youre a bad person' etc. From now on, I want to see only repect from you people! You give BOTH give Barzil a bad name here in the XOOPS community!!!

Herko
Published: 2005/6/11 2:17 • Updated: 2005/6/11 2:17
(ok, herko)
Published: 2005/6/11 2:25 • Updated: 2005/6/11 2:25
Hello,

That's really nice to see the WOX back.

Congratulations to all the WOX team, it's a fantastic job and congratulations to phppp for his new title, Xooper of the month !

Bye,
Hervé
Published: 2005/6/11 3:34 • Updated: 2005/6/11 3:34
I enjoyed reading the WOX newsletter - great job m0nty and team!

You've got a nice balance of topics and I especially enjoyed reading the interview with phppp.

Looking forward to the next version
Published: 2005/6/11 5:29 • Updated: 2005/6/11 5:30
Good thing getting the wox out again. congrats.

Also good seing dj being xooper of the month. Very much deserved. I want to thank you for your hard work and especially for the time you spent with us. Keep it up.
Published: 2005/6/11 7:08 • Updated: 2005/6/11 7:08
Os admins do XT borram nossa imagem mundo afora com coisas do tipo falta de exclarecimentos a nós usuários dele, o motivo que o mantém vivo, sem nós, o XT não teria razão de existir. Outra falha que a atual administração comete: Fazer parte de outro CMS fork do XOOPS mas não apenas como usuário e sim como administradores, então eu pergunto qual é o preferencial? Será as sabotagens propositais para que migremos para este outro?
Mais um erro de administração: o site vem sofrendo diversos ataques hackers e o banco de dados vem sendo copiado por eles e alterado o original para deturpar usernames e perfis. Mas como de costume não se fala onde, quando e como isto ocorreu, apenas restauram backups e esperam novo ataque, eles não entendem que ataques a um servidor ou site não é igual ao AVG onde vc clica em desinfectar se segue sua vida. Estes hackers são hoje sim os atuais administradores do xt, pois eles fazem o que querem e quando querem.
E a maioria destes ataques hackers são providos pela mesma pessoa, uma que é inimigo de um dos admins do xt, e ele o faz apenas para ataque pessoal a esta pessoa e não a comunidade, tanto é que ele também ataca sites deste membro e de todos que o apoiam. O pior que ultimamente descobri que todos neste meio tem telhado de vidro então fica complicado pois nesta estória não se tem vilão nem mocinho, só vitimas que é a comunidade que fica sem xt e com seus dados passeando por ai.
Em nosso grupo de discussão interno (colaboradores) foi proposto a troca de todos os admins para pessoas diferentes pois os atuais já estão muito queimados (por N motivos fora os listados) sob a base de uma votação para ver se todos concordavam e sabe qual foi a resposta? Apenas teria poder de voto que é colaborador ou admin, em resumo o PT vou se eles querem sair, e a demagogia deles em dizer que o xt é para todos não vale quando os dele estão na reta. Muitos devem se perguntar o que Maria leva com isto. Ou ainda por que me expor tanto assim para defender quem nem conheço contra pessoas que ao menos já vi.

A resposta vem por uma série de fatos, o mais relevante ocorreu no começo de dezembro, mais precisamente dia 04/12/2007, quando eu como colaborador XT fui notificado que o XOOPS tinha ganho pela revista Info da Editora Abril o prêmio de melhor CMS de 2007.
Ficou decidido que eu iria até a premiação para prestigiar, e os representantes seriam Eu (fabioegas), Claudia (claudiacallegarri), Gilberto (gibaphp), Rodrigo (rplima), Wilson (desculpe não lembro seu nick) e Ricardo (RedEye) este último como atual admin do XOOPS Brasil seria o privilegiado de receber o troféu.
Porém uma série de fatores mudaram tudo e umas duas horas antes do encontro para a prêmiação fiquei sabendo que eu iria receber o prêmio visto que o RedEye com problemas pessoais, algo que a filha tinha quebrado o braço, não poderia ir.

Mas de todos os outros presentes eu era o menos colaborativo na comunidade pois o máximo que fizera fora ajudar em foruns, algumas traduções e mais nada.

E em nosso grupo tinha desde criadores de módulos até o financiador do servidor do XT.
Mas ninguém queria ir, então ficou com muito orgulho para mim, e este é o principal motivo que eu tomo as dores.

Quando peguei o troféu passei automaticamente a representar o XT e não na cúpula política, pois não foram os votos dele que deram o prêmio ao XOOPS e sim toda a comunidade.

Então vieram uma série de vexamosos desastres envolvendo o XT e a cúpula sempre se omitindo de respostas e satisfações.

Então iniciei quase que sozinho a questionar a administração, coisa que até então não me importava pois não tinha nenhum vínculo ao XT.

E o que obtenho dia após dia é que além de mentirosos, foram uma panelinha fechada onde eles são detentores do certo e do errado, fora que também tem o direito de decidir que mentir é a melhor verdade.

Algumas perguntas me passam a cabeça:
Por que eu fui receber o prêmio?
Será que era porque os demais ali presentes, com exceção da Claudia que a coitada não tem tempo nem de cuidar de sua vida pessoal, foram BANIDOS do xoops.org e de forma alguma até aquele presente momento receberam satisfação da nave mãe sobre o caso?
Ou será porque eles já tramavam pelos bastidores o Impress CMS e soaria hipocritas receber um prêmio do CMS no qual eles criariam o FORK?
Ou seria uma estratégia para me alegrar e assim contribuir mais com a comunidade?

Sinceramente não sei. Morrerei com estas dúvidas, mas o que importa agora é que vocês orfãos XT estão se não a ver navios, em outra comunidade sendo bem atendidos e não precisam mais do XT.

Foi nestas hipóteses que pensei, o XT está fora do ar a tanto tempo que todos que dependiam dele já se arrumaram de outra forma, então não seria legal somar contribuição em uma destas comunidades já existentes de assim descontinuar o XT?
Como a administração roga: Para que dividir, queremos somar.
Mas eu discordo, o XT é uma comunidade impar, coesa, rápida e sempre disposta a salvar a pele de todos mas quando o assunto vira político ai da no que está.

Nos próximos posts, enviarei os logs comentados de nossas discussões no grupo criado para tal.

Quem quiser ver detalhes da premiação que fora muito legal acesse:
http://info.abril.com.br/premioinfo/2007/fotos.shl


E sei que ninguém está entendendo nada, e nem pode mesmo, o fato é que o giba (gilberto galdino) não dá importância à comunidade livre mas em apenas comercializar os seus próprios módulos para o XOOPS - http://comercial.xoops.net.br/ - pra quem ainda não entendeu, o XOOPS Brasil é do giba, uma ferramenta da empresa dele e não uma comunidade livre. livre, é apenas o pensamento, tutoriais, dicas e documentos que cada um editou lá e só isso. essa bagunça que vocês vêem no XOOPS Brasil é um problema crônico, e foi o que desmotivou dezenas de colaboradores. ninguém gosta de ver o trabalho que fez no tempo livre, com carinho e dedicação, ser desfeito sem o mínimo de consideração. o giba pode ser um cara simpático, atencioso com amigos e funcionários e as pessoas que podem dar algum retorno financeiro, mas o resto, ou seja, nós... se não somos possíveis clientes, automaticamente somos apenas pedra no sapato dele: Certified Local Support Sites will not charge a fee for support (or extra support). Donations are fine, but the support is a community effort and should remain free to all users. There shall be no penalties or reduced access to information for non donating members...



Todo mundo dá uma de FDP de vez em quando... Eu mesmo, muitas vezes, sou FDP... Talvez quando eu falo o que penso sem me preocupar com egos ou sentimentos...
Mas tem gente que é FDP o tempo todo!!
Quem é FDP o tempo todo é chamado de "verdadeiro FDP". Eis as principais características dos verdadeiros FDP:

- Os verdadeiros FDP são aqueles que cutucam e desabafam através de indiretas.
- Os verdadeiros FDP são os que, mesmo em posição de liderança, dizem que preferem não se meter onde precisariam estar metidos para o reestabelecimento da ordem.
- Os verdadeiros FDP são os que, quando erram e prejudicam meio mundo, somem até a poeira baixar e depois voltam rezando para que o povo tenha esquecido...
- Os verdadeiros FDP são os que se sentem atacados quando contrariados, preferindo estar em um ambiente onde todos concordam com tudo e ninguém evolui em nada.
- Os verdadeiros FDP são os omissos que só aparecem na hora de bater palma e fazer festinha...
- Os verdadeiros FDP são os que abanam o rabo via Messenger e atacam publicamente (acredite, isso acontece nos dias de hoje).
- Os verdadeiros FDP são os burros poderosos, que desejam que todos sejam burros e continuem burros, com medo de perder espaço.
- Os verdadeiros FDP são os que não acreditam na possibilidade de sábios falarem merda e creem piamente em ditados de séculos atrás. Depois, usam estas mesmas frases como explicação para os próprios problemas.

E para você? Quem são os verdadeiros FDP? Os admins do XT borram nossa imagem mundo afora com coisas do tipo falta de exclarecimentos a nós usuários dele, o motivo que o mantém vivo, sem nós, o XT não teria razão de existir. Outra falha que a atual administração comete: Fazer parte de outro CMS fork do XOOPS mas não apenas como usuário e sim como administradores, então eu pergunto qual é o preferencial? Será as sabotagens propositais para que migremos para este outro?
Published: 2005/6/11 7:36 • Updated: 2008/4/3 5:40
Nice job on the letter since CBlue and I did it last. I'm particularly glad to see it come alive again. It was very well done!

Stew Brennand
XOOPS Community Support

Official XOOPS Documentation - Read the Visual Guide
Recommended Sites - XOOPS 3rd Party Support
Published: 2005/6/11 11:52 • Updated: 2005/6/11 11:52
Herko, with reason, said:
Quote:
If you do this again, your website will be taken off the list! This warning goes to XOOPS Brasil too! No more 'youre a bad person' etc. From now on, I want to see only repect from you people! You give BOTH give Brasil a bad name here in the XOOPS community!!!


You obviously have the reason, and I Igree.
But XOOPS Brasil not, with this new post:

"Quote:
XOOPS Brasil is the best support of Latin America in Xoops, this elect one for its users in such a way in the Brasil as in the other countries of Spanish languages. When to the Mikhail Miguel, I do not want to comment nothing, always in all community in which it I participated it always I arranged fight, either in phpnuke, postnuke, etc. Now for the visa he is arranging more fight in the Xoops. I do not want to comment more the respect of this, is alone to verify the community of XOOPS in the Brasil for tests.
"

So... what can I do about this new flame?

Write a new reply? No, because you said:

Quote:

If you do this again, your website will be taken off the list! This warning goes to XOOPS Brasil too!


So, if true, XOOPS Brasil webhosting ("the best support of latin america") will be taken off the list, correct?
Published: 2005/6/11 16:33 • Updated: 2005/6/11 16:49
we can't be responsible for every users comments and opinions.

now either keep these comments on topic and relevant to the newsletter or don't post at all!! and stop changing the post title please

@stewdio, thanks yes it helped a lot having previous newsletters to base from.
Published: 2005/6/11 16:47 • Updated: 2005/6/11 16:50
@mikhail:
Why don't you guys join each other instead of fighting? don't you think this kind of relationship is not going to work forever?
Come on guys! Lets not fight! Whether XOOPS Brasil Community is providing the paid support or not, what that does to your website! If your support is good enough, well people will be attracted to your website, thus, there is no need of fighting here! Please finish this here! Don't you think as a XOOPS ambassador you should not show the lack of communication here?
Come on finish it here and do not post about this anymore! There is no need to fight. As Herko and many other people mentioned, you two are both XOOPS Brasilian Support sites and there shouldn't be any problem.
I personally think if you both are going to fight forever, then to finish this up both of you should not be XOOPS Official Support sites anymore! Perhaps that's the final solution! To Prevent this ---> Please do not bring this up anymore!
Published: 2005/6/11 16:59 • Updated: 2005/6/11 16:59
mikhail,

According to the support site guidelines, this is the wrong way of doing things.

Quote:
8. XOOPS.org prides itself in offering the highest standards of applications and free support. Certified Support Sites should make all efforts to present XOOPS in a positive manner. At times there will be conflicts, or matters beyond anyones control.
If an issue comes up that needs to be addressed, please immediately report it to the XOOPS Liaison Team for action. XOOPS.org will address and rectify the issue with the utmost speed (with your help) so that all our users, administrators, and developers will be able to have an enjoyable experience using, learning, and developing XOOPS components.


If there is a problem an off site e-mail is the way to go, not public announcements in the forums or comments.

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9. If, for some reason the differences between XOOPS.org and the Certified Support Site cannot be resolved after exhausting all avenues of resolution, XOOPS.org reserves the right to revoke the Certified status of the support site.


And XOOPS.org reserves the right to remove official status from any site that we cannot seem to resolve the conflict with. And I think Herko was very clear in this matter in his earlier comment.

Now please do not carry this any further in public on this site.
Published: 2005/6/11 17:07 • Updated: 2005/6/11 17:07
Quote:
XOOPS International Support Sites
...
Russian Support
...


Hey, developers and Lords of the XOOPS, I am russian user of XOOPS and do have a website at http://christ4you.org and do use the http://xoops2.ru for Russian support BUT NOT http://xoops.ru !

Please look at the activity at the boths support websites and acknowledge that the xoops.ru is the hangover of XOOPS1, but http://xoops2.ru is real XOOPS2 support website and the team is working hard on Russian line of the xoops.

Please consider my post and qualify the xoops2.ru as oficial RUSSIAN SUPPORT website.
Published: 2005/6/11 17:09 • Updated: 2005/6/11 17:09
I need to stop to spend my time with this. And and I agree with Herko (understanding his side).

But XOOPS Brasil Webhosting post another flame after the Herko comment and my reply about it.

Is clear what I'm trying to say with my last post???


Thanks in advance for any comment about the root of the problem.


mikhail
Published: 2005/6/11 17:47 • Updated: 2005/6/11 18:21
im a Brazilian XOOPS user... and all i can think reading this posts is that its a shame to Brazilian xoopsers.

mikhail, can you stop, please? the last posts in this flame war are all yours. Dont know who is right, and i really dont care who is right. Im interested in xoops, and both sites offer XOOPS support. So, please, can all of you just stop with this war?

[]s
Mauricio
Published: 2005/6/11 18:16 • Updated: 2005/6/11 18:16
Second intentions.

My messages about to stop with flames are always followed by messages of another member of XOOPS total webhosting


So... one more time: I need to stop to spend my time with this. And and I agree with Herko (understanding his side).


But XOOPS Brasil Webhosting post another flame after the Herko comment and my reply about it.

Is clear what I'm trying to say with my last post???


Thanks in advance for any comment about the root of the problem.


mikhail
Published: 2005/6/11 18:25 • Updated: 2005/6/11 18:43
just to inform... im a member from BOTH sites. and i dont give ANY importance about who is "official" or not. I dont care if NEITHER of your sites are official or not. But i DO care if Brazilian support sites make such a flame war around a news about the WOX. A great news turns into a flame war. Thats a shame, a big big shame.
Published: 2005/6/11 18:28 • Updated: 2005/6/11 18:28
Quote:
Poster: maumed Posted: 2005/6/11 21:28:44
just to inform... im a member from BOTH sites. and i dont give ANY importance about who is "official" or not.


Second intentions.

Maumed is the designer manager of XOOPS Brasil Webhosting:

Original:
http://www.xoops.net.br/userinfo.php?uid=563

Google cache:
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache: ... /userinfo.php%3Fuid%3D563

SO... one more time: I need to stop to spend my time with this. And and I agree with Herko (understanding his side).


But XOOPS Brasil Webhosting post another flame after the Herko comment and my reply about it.

Is clear what I'm trying to say with my last post???


Thanks in advance for any comment about the root of the problem.


mikhail


---
and my messages about to stop with flames are always followed by replies of another member of XOOPS total webhosting.
Published: 2005/6/11 18:42 • Updated: 2005/6/11 19:02
i was happy (and actually im still happy) with the return of wox. It, and all the actions to improve the contact between xoopsers all around the world, is what makes me proud of be part of the comunnity.

[]s
Mauricio
Published: 2005/6/11 19:09 • Updated: 2005/6/11 19:09
Are commercial support allways 'Shiny Happy People'? or is just to hide the problems and create an 'auto-sabotage'?

Congratulations Xoopers




To Herko: Im trying to stop, but they always continue, in public and private. Im tired.

Xoops Brasil is - still - under-reconstruction, and Im redirecting the links to Xoops Parana.

--
and my messages about to stop with flames are always followed by replies of another member of XOOPS total webhosting.
Published: 2005/6/11 19:15 • Updated: 2005/6/11 19:50
i was thinking about wox...

what do you think about in the next wox give to the team captains a chance to report they work here in the WOX? that would be great... and make the WOX an channel even stronger.

[]s
Mauricio
Published: 2005/6/11 19:44 • Updated: 2005/6/11 19:44
Great to see the WOX back. I missed it.

But next time I'm NOT reading the comments. It just gives me one more reason to stay away. Here I am getting OT too but no loss since anything of value is overshadowed by another Brazilian battle. And I won't take sides, I vote for no official sites if this is what happens. Great futobol down there but cripes the virtual civil war is very boring. STFU already.
Published: 2005/6/11 20:28 • Updated: 2005/6/11 20:28
I suggest that the creators Of WOX , send the news letter to emails too!
Published: 2005/6/11 20:48 • Updated: 2005/6/11 20:48
yes... its even better that make a biiiiiig wox with comments from all the captains...
Published: 2005/6/11 21:01 • Updated: 2005/6/11 21:01
O pior é que as pessoas demoram demais para entender as coisas, todos sabem que muitos colaboradores foram tolidos quandos herdaram do giba estigmas sobre algumas pessoas... inveredaram na idéia dele e se mostram igual ou pior que ele quando julgaram sem apurar os fatos.

Foram inúmeras as minhas tentativas de ajudar o XOOPS em comunidades, mas no contexto da coordenação, minhas idéias batiam de frente com os interesses individuais pelo mercado do XOOPS, que amadoramente acabou por não amadurecer. Ora, todos nós sabemos aqui que havia uma tendência de comando, uma vontade de direcionar as coisas, causar polêmicas em torno de ética e para que? Ora para apontar um modelo, um sujeito baixo e sujo.

Eu da minha parte tenho nojo disso tudo, primeiro uma comunidade me detonou, depois tiver que provar que aquilo era injusto, depois a outra me detonou sem aurgumento algum o que e pior, e depois de base eu resolvi me afastar de tudo. Todo esses projetos de lingo, demo etc. eu tentei, e sempre houve má vontade, até que um dia viram que o erro não podia persistir e ai puseram em prática essas idéias, quem tem o meu primeiro post verá que tudo o que esta acontecendo eu vaticinei, e sem vaidade nenhuma. Sempre achei e continuo achando que ninguem tem a obrigação de trabalhar por ideal em relação ao Software Livre e sim é uma forma econômica de se valorizar no setor e se fazer presente.

Fiquei muito furioso quando um sujeito denigre a imagem de um amigo meu, coisa que ninguem teve a honradez de fazer ao meu favor, eu tenho em relação a ela que considero bastante e tenho certeza de que se uma pessoa tem um bom caráter jamais entra lá naquele antro de sangue-sugas.


Quote:

Que nada, ninguém tá invadindo o XT
é apenas o Giba editando posts, ele adora ficar mexendo no site até estragar tudo, dai chama o Topet0, que ingenuamente vai arrumar a eca que ele fez.

Sei que ninguém tá entendendo nada, e nem pode mesmo, o fato é que o cara não tá nem aí para uma comunidade livre e sim unicamente em comercializar seu modulos que faz pra xoops.


Pra quem ainda não entendeu, o XT é do Giba, uma ferramenta da empresa dele e não uma comunidade livre. Livre, é apenas o pensamento tutoriais, dicas e documentos que cada um editou lá e só isso.

Essa bagunça que vcs veem no XT é um problema crônico, e foi o que desmotivou dezenas de colaboradores. Ninguém gosta de ver o trabalho que fez no tempo livre, com carinho e dedicação, ser desfeito sem o mínimo de consideração.

O Giba pode ser um cara simpático, atencioso com amigos e funcionários e as pessoas que podem dar algum retorno financeiro, mas o resto, ou seja,' nós '......se não somos possiveis clintes, automaticamente somos apenas pedra no sapato dele.

Ele tá errado, eticamente talvés, mas esse é o mundo dos negocios e é assim que é, doa a quem doer. Quem tem mais experiencia na vida sabe 98% das pessoas passam por cima das outras quando estão competindo, agem por interesse próprio e só isso. É a natureza humana.
Só posso dizer uma coisa a vcs....Bem vindo ao mundo!

Published: 2005/6/11 23:45 • Updated: 2007/11/15 8:49
One thing that previous newsletters had was a list of the modules released since the last newsletter. That was always a HUGE help since I inevitably missed a release. A link would be even better. And maybe a short review of 2-3?

Thanks for the newsletter!
Published: 2005/6/13 1:23 • Updated: 2005/6/13 1:23
A great read Thank you M0nty, and contrats to PHPPP for making xooper of the month!

Quote:
One thing that previous newsletters had was a list of the modules released since the last newsletter.


I think I read earyler on that there will be a seperate news release, regarding modules and themes.
Published: 2005/6/13 3:46 • Updated: 2005/6/13 3:46
Sounds like the XOOPS community spirit is back on track (at some exception) with this new WOX release.

Only good news...

Keep it up!


Published: 2005/6/13 8:00 • Updated: 2005/6/13 8:00
Traditional Chinese version of this newsletter :

http://xoops.tnc.edu.tw/modules/news/article.php?storyid=88

Traditional Chinese Support site:

http://xoops.tnc.edu.tw/

This is another support site in Taiwan but also active and open. Maybe Phppp could prove this.
Published: 2005/6/15 0:46 • Updated: 2005/6/15 0:46
great newsletter shame about the off-topic comments from Brasil

I am very interested in the module update list and quailty reviews. it is very hard to find the good from the bad.

you think you have it right then bam and obvious bug shows up that should of been fixed or noted before release, there must be a way to make this process better.

thanks to all those who's hard work has made XOOPS it's awesome.
Published: 2005/6/15 18:53 • Updated: 2005/6/15 18:53
O pior é que as pessoas demoram demais para entender as coisas, todos sabem que muitos colaboradores foram tolidos quandos herdaram do giba estigmas sobre algumas pessoas... inveredaram na idéia dele e se mostram igual ou pior que ele quando julgaram sem apurar os fatos.

Foram inúmeras as minhas tentativas de ajudar o XOOPS em comunidades, mas no contexto da coordenação, minhas idéias batiam de frente com os interesses individuais pelo mercado do XOOPS, que amadoramente acabou por não amadurecer. Ora, todos nós sabemos aqui que havia uma tendência de comando, uma vontade de direcionar as coisas, causar polêmicas em torno de ética e para que? Ora para apontar um modelo, um sujeito baixo e sujo.

Eu da minha parte tenho nojo disso tudo, primeiro uma comunidade me detonou, depois tiver que provar que aquilo era injusto, depois a outra me detonou sem aurgumento algum o que e pior, e depois de base eu resolvi me afastar de tudo. Todo esses projetos de lingo, demo etc. eu tentei, e sempre houve má vontade, até que um dia viram que o erro não podia persistir e ai puseram em prática essas idéias, quem tem o meu primeiro post verá que tudo o que esta acontecendo eu vaticinei, e sem vaidade nenhuma. Sempre achei e continuo achando que ninguem tem a obrigação de trabalhar por ideal em relação ao Software Livre e sim é uma forma econômica de se valorizar no setor e se fazer presente.

Fiquei muito furioso quando um sujeito denigre a imagem de um amigo meu, coisa que ninguem teve a honradez de fazer ao meu favor, eu tenho em relação a ela que considero bastante e tenho certeza de que se uma pessoa tem um bom caráter jamais entra lá naquele antro de sangue-sugas.


Quote:

Que nada, ninguém tá invadindo o XT
é apenas o Giba editando posts, ele adora ficar mexendo no site até estragar tudo, dai chama o Topet0, que ingenuamente vai arrumar a eca que ele fez.

Sei que ninguém tá entendendo nada, e nem pode mesmo, o fato é que o cara não tá nem aí para uma comunidade livre e sim unicamente em comercializar seu modulos que faz pra xoops.


Pra quem ainda não entendeu, o XT é do Giba, uma ferramenta da empresa dele e não uma comunidade livre. Livre, é apenas o pensamento tutoriais, dicas e documentos que cada um editou lá e só isso.

Essa bagunça que vcs veem no XT é um problema crônico, e foi o que desmotivou dezenas de colaboradores. Ninguém gosta de ver o trabalho que fez no tempo livre, com carinho e dedicação, ser desfeito sem o mínimo de consideração.

O Giba pode ser um cara simpático, atencioso com amigos e funcionários e as pessoas que podem dar algum retorno financeiro, mas o resto, ou seja,' nós '......se não somos possiveis clintes, automaticamente somos apenas pedra no sapato dele.

Ele tá errado, eticamente talvés, mas esse é o mundo dos negocios e é assim que é, doa a quem doer. Quem tem mais experiencia na vida sabe 98% das pessoas passam por cima das outras quando estão competindo, agem por interesse próprio e só isso. É a natureza humana.
Só posso dizer uma coisa a vcs....Bem vindo ao mundo!

Published: 2005/6/15 19:27 • Updated: 2007/11/16 18:04
davidl2 wrote
Quote:
the module repository team is working on this Gecko - but as you can imagine, it's not an easy task.

I can appreciate this is a big task, not sure how i can help as i am not that smart code wise.

I guess the biggest problems i have run into as a newbie is ....
1. poor or no description of what module does.
2. Lack of user comments to guide me on whether a module is good or not.
3 Lack of ratings by users and of course the ratings don't mean anything if one person has rated it 10 cause that just says its the greatest thing since sliced bread.
4. upgrades or new versions are very hard to track if you don't kno whow the system works.

hope thats of use to someone.
cheers
Gecko
Published: 2005/6/16 18:20 • Updated: 2005/6/16 18:20
Why do I have to be registered and log in to download CBB?

(sorry - going Off Topic)
Published: 2005/6/17 4:26 • Updated: 2005/6/17 4:26
Quote:

Why do I have to be registered and log in to download CBB?


I even did not notice it.
Perhaps David will check it.
Published: 2005/6/17 6:11 • Updated: 2005/6/17 6:11
Quote:

Poster: kiang Posted: 2005/6/15 1:46:35

Traditional Chinese Support site:

http://xoops.tnc.edu.tw/

This is another support site in Taiwan but also active and open. Maybe Phppp could prove this.


Yes, the site is quite active and helpful to Traditional Chinese XOOPS users in parallel with the current TChinese support site tw.xoops.org which is mainly supporting JP-XOOPS at this moment.
Published: 2005/6/17 6:16 • Updated: 2005/6/17 6:16
Thanks to all who responded to the newsletter :)

@kiang, thankyou too for the translation, with regards to being added to the support sites list, can you please contact JDSeymour and he will give you more information and a copy of the guidelines and terms & conditions etc for you to read.

we would be happy to accept your request once you have read and agreed to the conditions :)

also if any support sites have not been contacted previously can you also please contact JDSeymour who can fill you in on the details.

Also Anybody wishing to help out please contact the team leader of the respected team you wish to join. The news team does require more members to help with current news and future projects.
Published: 2005/6/17 8:10 • Updated: 2005/6/17 8:19
@phppp:

Thanks for your reply.

@m0nty:

Thanks for your information. I'm not a webmaster of that site and I've sent the messages to them. Maybe they will contact JDSeymour directly. :)
Published: 2005/6/18 13:18 • Updated: 2005/6/18 13:19
To phppp:
Many thanks.

Thanks to kiang.

I am the leader of xoops.tnc.edu.tw.

We are happy to be the official XOOPS Traditional Chinese support site.

Thank you.
OLS3
Published: 2005/6/19 8:33 • Updated: 2005/6/19 8:41
Great news! i hope we can receive more newsletters on mail too (wich can make more easy to those who have not so many time to visit pages out of the origin country), anyway we will be here just waiting for the next.

:D
Published: 2005/6/19 21:09 • Updated: 2005/6/19 21:09
dandn.com has stoped its support to Arabic Xoops, is there any other web page that supports Arabic XOOPS ?

The Last update I had from dandn.com was 2.0.13.1


Published: 2005/12/7 3:02 • Updated: 2005/12/7 3:02
Salam ALOOoo

Our web site still supporting XOOPS , i hope to visit us soon

Alburak for IT Solutions : www.alburak.net
Published: 2005/12/7 8:32 • Updated: 2005/12/7 8:32
Congratulations! Great effect!
Published: 2007/9/11 9:19 • Updated: 2007/9/11 9:19