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Re: [XoopsTeam] progress - Communications Team - June 10th #9
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tom wrote:
The XOOPS Communications Team Proposal

Tasks:

- Community coordination
Team will fall under it's own - [XoopsTeam] progress - community coordination - June 10th

Currently open to applicants and suggestions.


Suggestion: Tasks: communications with the XOOPS support local sites, organization, assistance, feedback etc.

I think that could to be a good idea this: all local support sites could use the same design theme and get an organization as ubuntu.

And the web name could be: xoops-es.org, xoops-it.org xoops-pt.org etc.

Excuse me; I do not know if this message is for "Community coordination" or "Tasks of XOOPS Communication".

The local support sites are very importants for the community: a lot of users do not understand english and they need support in the local language.
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- Translations
-- Translate to other languages for use in international support sites


I want to help in translations to spanish: I had offered my help to Riosoft and I had request to the spanish community about this

Who I am?. Certainly I am registered since few time ago. I had used XOOPS three years ago but I am not a encoder a my english must to enhance. But I know XOOPS as normal user and think that translations an a strong local support could help to xoops.

I had translated to spanish: mpmanager (new version here) and hterror modules

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Re: [XoopsTeam] progress - Communications Team - June 10th #10
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I think that could to be a good idea this: all local support sites could use the same design theme and get an organization as ubuntu.

And the web name could be: xoops-es.org, xoops-it.org xoops-pt.org etc.



Well I tink it's indeed important that there will come a (new) list of local supportsites that is up-to-date. I also think It's a good thing that they are presentated on the official site with the standard localsupport badgets.

But I think and I feel that the local supportsites are important sites that throug the years have build their one usergroup and have got their own identity. I think, from that perspective that it's not nessesary and maybe even not wanted that they have to give up there onw identity by giving up their URL and personal design. It's my personal opinion that this would be a great loss

If you want that you can better build a multi language site where support members translate the news and articles in that one particular site.
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Re: [XoopsTeam] progress - Communications Team - June 10th #11
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Posts: 213 I agree with web-M, we should leave old domains and designs on local support sites. Personally I like the domain xoops.pl and theme which made DefianceB0y.

In my opinion current support list is good ( http://www.xoops.org/modules/xoopspartners/ ).
Keeping local sites good-looking and up to date is a problem of local admins, not XOOPS.org leaders
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Re: [XoopsTeam] progress - Communications Team - June 10th #12
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Posts: 18 Perhaps you are in the right and the domains must not change. Ok.
But the current support list need the atention of xoops.org. Of course keeping local sites is a problem of local admins but xoops.org must pay some attention.

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Re: [XoopsTeam] progress - Communications Team - June 10th #13
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Pleases me you guys liked the theme and I'm privileged to have one of my themes installed on an official support site such as XOOPS.pl.
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Re: [XoopsTeam] progress - Communications Team - June 10th #14
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But I think and I feel that the local supportsites are important sites that throug the years have build their one usergroup and have got their own identity. I think, from that perspective that it's not nessesary and maybe even not wanted that they have to give up there onw identity by giving up their URL and personal design. It's my personal opinion that this would be a great loss


Loss of what? If this is about :

- being part of XOOPS world family
- support for XOOPS

then what is wrong with having a consistent "look & feel" across all support domains?

Sure, almost every Webmaster wants to show off his/her skills and wants to make changes, but why not to use your own Website to show it off, but stick to a standard "look & feel" of the "official" local XOOPS support site?

We have to be more "customer driven" in our thinking. If a user who speaks 2-4 languages wants to switch from US site to German and then to French support site, why do we want him to spend several minutes before he figures out the local design and navigation, because everybody has something totally different?

Wouldn't it be easier for him if the sites would be consistent in their design?

There should be a difference between an "official" support site, and Joe's, Jean's, or Johann's personal XOOPS oriented Website.

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Re: [XoopsTeam] progress - Communications Team - June 10th #15
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There should be a difference between an "official" support site, and Joe's, Jean's, or Johann's personal XOOPS oriented Website.



When it is defined what makes a site considered to be "official", and why it should be like this and how it's planned to be succesfully achieved.

Then it would be easier to make the differentiation you mention.
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Re: [XoopsTeam] progress - Communications Team - June 10th #16
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I absolutely agree, all official XOOPS sites should have a like continuity from an end user stand point of view. And the theme should be both IE6 and FireFox user friendly across all official sites.

End users such as myself are interested in getting to the information needed so we can get on with our lives. We have engough to worry about without the added question, "Is this official and why must I change browsers in order to get the information I need?"

Those of us, not "in the loop", need a representative.

In the END it is the END USER that will determine the fate of Xoops.

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Re: [XoopsTeam] progress - Communications Team - June 10th #17
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Re: [XoopsTeam] progress - Communications Team - June 10th #18
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And the web name could be: xoops-es.org, xoops-it.org xoops-pt.org etc.



Absolutely, that is the first step in making the WHOLE XOOPS site multi-language. MediaWiki is setup to accommodate that naming convention. I love it.


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Re: [XoopsTeam] progress - Communications Team - June 10th #19
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Posts: 338 Maybe a Quality Assurance team or Promotion team should be in charge of a matter such as this.

Among other things they should decide what sites are to be labeled as Certified XOOPS Support Sites, as XOOPS can't afford sending people the wrong way when it comes to support in other language than english, they should evaluate the area of help a site can provide for its XOOPS users and never the less the quality of the content the given site has.

XOOPS Support Site admins have paramount work to do but that doesn't mean certain areas must be overlooked.

Registering www.xoops.mycountry does not make me an official support site as i'm unable to give support due to my lack of knowledge in php.
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Re: [XoopsTeam] progress - Communications Team - June 10th #20
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de.xoops.org
es.xoops.org
ru.xoops.org , like in wikipedia :)
It would be only redirections.
every xoops-xx.org domain costs, subdomain is free. IMHO existing domains like xoops.ru have to stay still alive and work as a (maybe) main adress.
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JMorris wrote:

I thought we were trying to move away from a situation where the Project decided what the community could and could not do.

IMHO, the only websites that should be under the control and management of the XOOPS Project/XOOPS Foundation are www.xoops.org (Project Homepage) and docs.xoops.org (Project Documentation). ALL other sites should be built by and managed by the community.

snow77 wrote:
Site Name: XOOPS official site
URL: xoops.org / xoops.com
Site constructors: none, all aborted (used to be all members of mxo)
Site purposes: Main XOOPS site. Promote the XOOPS product, explain what the XOOPS project consists of. Download of official core releases, language packs and security releases. News exclusively classified as official. Availibility in multilanguage.
Site contents: HTML example of content structure given by the past core developers, Skalpa and Rowdie.
Current progress: NA
Time for available for community evaluation: NA

- Only site that was considered to be official which work was done on.

JMorris wrote:
BS,

I disagree. Please see the XOOPS Certified Local Support Site Guidelines.

Local Support Sites are not built and/or managed by the XOOPS Project and XOOPS Foundation. They are built by community members for community members. They receive "Official Recognition" as a Local Support Site, but they are not "Official" XOOPS Project sites, there is a difference here.

"Official" sites are owned and managed by the XOOPS Project/XOOPS Foundation.

"Officially Recognized" sites are built by community members, for community members.

To force Local support sites to adhere to a strict guideline of theme and domain would be to remove elements of control over the site from the community that built it.

I thought we were trying to move away from a situation where the Project decided what the community could and could not do.

IMHO, the only websites that should be under the control and management of the XOOPS Project/XOOPS Foundation are www.xoops.org (Project Homepage) and docs.xoops.org (Project Documentation). ALL other sites should be built by and managed by the community.