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#31 Posted on: 2007/1/31 14:23 Re: Has Xoops lost its appeal?
I agree, the search function on the site has been pretty slow and unhelpful to me recently... it seems like it has it's good days, and it's bad days! In the meanwhile, I have just created my own search page, which I keep like an icon on my desktop..and just click it whenever I want to search Xoops. I actually started doing this a while ago, when another site I frequent pulled the plug on it's search function, due to spammer abuse.

Anyways, here is the code if you want to make a similar page yourself:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<title>Search Xoops!</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#333399">
<table width="30%" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tr>
<td>
<center>
<form method="GET" action="http://www.google.com/search" target="_blank"><input type="hidden" name="domains" value="xoops.org"><input TYPE="text" name="q" size="25" maxlength="255" value><input type="submit" name="btnG" value="Google">
<br><input type="radio" name="sitesearch" value="xoops.org" checked>
<font color="#FFFFCC">Xoops.org <input type="radio" name="sitesearch" value>www</font>
</form>
</center>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</body>
</html>

Just create a blank html page, and paste in this code. Then just keep the file somewhere handy, where you can click on it when you want to search the site.

(If you want, add in the following Adsense publisher id... ok, forget it :) )

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#32 Posted on: 2007/1/31 14:51 Re: Has Xoops lost its appeal?
I need to add this as well.

Joomla mods, components, themes are much faster to install. The installer is doing the work of installation server side, and the upload of just one zipped file is a quantum leap in speed above what we do in Xoops.

This is bad:

Unzipping and FTP unzipped files to their proper place on the server is dark ages computing. Whenever you upload a large mod, especially one with an editor like the FCKeditor you've got a good half hour just getting the unzipped files/folders FTP to the server.

Also, while we're at it. Why can't the editors be located in a CORE folder. Then devs can access the respective editor for their mod and we don't have several installs of the same editor. I've got two mods currently that use the FCKeditor, and I've got two installs of the FCKeditor.

Effectively:

I can build five Joomla sites in the time it takes to build one XOOPS site with similar features. The "one" feature of Joomla doing server side installs and upgrades is the key. Also, Joomla requires dev mods to have uninstaller included with the install sequences. You can unistall a Joomla mod, component or theme just as efficiently.

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#33 Posted on: 2007/1/31 14:57 Re: Has Xoops lost its appeal?
Yeh search is handy, yet really shouldn't we organise a full guide as we are doing in some of the new site and in the process of upgrading Xoops.org?
So it is easier to begin with, to find what we are looking for and so search shouldn't be our beginning goal, yet our end one.... after we have a full system that is laid out to be understood to begin with.
As if we don’t fix the fact everyone uses the forum for answer that should be easily accessible all in one place, we will get more over run with repeated questions.

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#34 Posted on: 2007/1/31 14:57 Re: Has Xoops lost its appeal?
As for the eye-candy aspect of this site... I agree.

In the spirit of sharing, I am happy to provide a new & free theme based on the stuff I've been working on lately. Demos may be seen at: http://eirenicon.org (use Try our Themes to see all three current variants).

I won't be hurt if folks don't want to use any these... I just thought I'd offer.

If someone of the powers that be is interested you can pm me and "tell me where to go".

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#35 Posted on: 2007/1/31 15:18 Re: Has Xoops lost its appeal?
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As for the eye-candy aspect of this site... I agree.

In the spirit of sharing, I am happy to provide a new & free theme based on the stuff I've been working on lately. Demos may be seen at: http://eirenicon.org (use Try our Themes to see all three current variants).

I won't be hurt if folks don't want to use any these... I just thought I'd offer.

If someone of the powers that be is interested you can pm me and "tell me where to go".


I really like your latest theme. I just don't have any sites working that it would work on. I'm getting started on a Kids site next week. I just finished a site for a florist. I'm into flowers and kids now. I'm gonna need abunch of bright colorful whizits for the kids.

I'm going to use fisheye menus and lotta flash stuff as well.

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#36 Posted on: 2007/1/31 15:47 Re: Has Xoops lost its appeal?
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xoops.org's design is definitively not "eye-candy" according to me


Agreed, and some of your other points are valid.

These are being worked on, but sadly they take a bit more time to do then some people are patient for

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#37 Posted on: 2007/1/31 19:24 Re: Has Xoops lost its appeal?
I kind of forget, but isn't there a Add To Favorites or My Shortcuts or MyBookmarks module?

Could it be set up so that all members have the ability to bookmark noteworthy posts and solutions to recurring problems?

Instead of searching for an answer to a question that you know exists "somewhere" on the XOOPS forums, we could just go to our bookmarks.

At the very least, a few more of the questions that go unanswered might be answered by members who know there is an answer, but are too pressed for time to search for it.

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#38 Posted on: 2007/1/31 22:29 Re: Has Xoops lost its appeal?
I've been a member on these boards since 2002. If you just run a search on my user name you'll find there is no reasoning to the return of search items. The search comes back with all kinds of stuff from all different years.

We need a between dates qualifier at least.
Yeah, I know...who is gonna search on user name. Me, when I'm looking for an old post where I got a good answer.

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We also need a hacks repository. Some of the best things I've done for my sites is some little tweaky hack or other.

I do click on the news and then select hacks when I'm chasing a hack, but a repository would better serve...IMO

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#39 Posted on: 2007/2/1 0:03 Re: Has Xoops lost its appeal?
Hi all,
I think we are talking about many many thinks and it's a true problem...
We are talking about support in the first post of this thread and now... we are lookiing a nice theme

The problem is the same on all support site. www.frxoops.org as the same problem. We (french team) have discuss about this since a long time and here is our opinion :

A forum is a great tool for providing support but it's a true nightmare... a similar problem is debated numerous times, the software environnment and server properties are rarely identified clearly. It's difficult to search in thousand posts and threads...

There are two choices,
Continue using the forums and transform in FAQ the interesting threads (it's a big work, but very important for the futur, usefull for users because the Question and the answer are cleaned)
An other idea is to move the resolved thread in a special forum 'resolved' after cleaning.

Using a true support system, ticket incident, as xhelp or trac (for the ticket part). the user has an answser (but it's not a public answer)

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#40 Posted on: 2007/2/1 3:25 Re: Has Xoops lost its appeal?
Also to your list of suggestions what about site wide Wiki and use CBB, that way any words that are used allot becomes a Wiki page.
Then the forum is an extension of the Wiki, Articles are also as on our site is trying....not sure how this would work on Xoops.org scale yet the logic is there, to be what is needed?

Even on News we could use it, so when it comes to normal explanations they are Wiki pages, if these are labelled well then all it takes is as the author post news they just surround the words they know will be questioned and Wiki those.

Isn't this why Wiki was developed to be a quick way to explain things?

yet with the work being done on Tag's and Wiki together makes for a very intuitive system in my own opinion, what do you lot think?

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