Re: Let's make XOOPS valid xhtml1.0 transitional! [XOOPS Core Hacks]

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Re: Let's make XOOPS valid xhtml1.0 transitional!

2005/4/12 13:33
damaster
Just can't stay away
Posts: 556
Since: 2003/5/11

@Herko

As i mention above, Don't misunderstood me... , being fair, that's all!

I'm sorry for your grand-father and sorry for you Herko.

You're young, ambitious, you don't have reasons to be jealous, you have an opportinity, since you had 'took' the XOOPS Project, to show your competences. And "keep this realist" does it means less humain ?

I know, you're the Head.
And it's obvious that you consider history, utopia, hope, and wise leaders to have people following "some idea" of what it should be, don't you!?

I like people more than machines or money !
But that's me, Herko.

Any way, good work All XOOPS users !

I like people more than machines or money. But that's me!
Lets do something good and great: Lets do open source!

33

Re: Let's make XOOPS valid xhtml1.0 transitional!

2005/4/12 13:10
Herko
XOOPS is my life!
Posts: 4238
Since: 2002/2/4 1

Quote:

Damaster wrote:
Wanikoo give us his time and knowledge for free! What else can we see here?

Machine Skills vs Humain Skills !?

He don't need to be part of them, already being part of XOOPS community, he's free.

Wanikoo acts in the noblest way.

Don't we all do everything for free, for the benefit of everyone, in our own free time? I don't see the need, and I think Wanikoo agrees with me on this, to put Wanikoo on a pedestal any more then he is now. Everyone appreciates his work and the effort he puts into this (my granddad died 2 weeks ago too), but we appreciate all contributions, large or small. So lets keep this realistic

Herko

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Re: Let's make XOOPS valid xhtml1.0 transitional!

2005/4/12 11:32
giba
Just can't stay away
Posts: 638
Since: 2003/4/26

Quote:

wanikoo wrote:
but...my answer is "NO...more exactly NOT YET"
because I don't have enough skill and experience yet.
but
I will continue to develop myself more and more....for D-day(--;;)

Umm..
Anyway..
It's off the topic^^;;

@off topic for my friend wanikoo

Sorry, in portuguese.

Eu compreendo você.
For?a, esperan?a, vá em frente, ele se foi mas com certeza deve ter deixado uma história de vida belissima.
História esta que estamos vendo você escrever aqui.
O XOOPS será diferente do que é hoje na parte de valida??es de xhtml e provavelmente de RSS também e você terá participado desta mudan?a pessoalmente.
Alguns n?o gostam de mim por falar o que penso realmente, mas isto é verdade e as mudan?as est?o ai.
Continue, for?a, obrigado Amigo

by google translation.

I understand you.
Force, hope, it goes in front, was itself but with certainty belissima must have left a life history.
History this that we are seeing you to write here.

The XOOPS will be different of that it is today in the part of validations of xhtml and probably of RSS also and you it will have participated of this change personally.

Some do not like me for speaking what I really think, but that is truth and the changes are ai.

It continues, force, debtor Friend: -)

Ps: @Saloma ai no Brasil, se a tradu??o estiver muito errado, da uma for?a ai para o véio aqui

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Re: Let's make XOOPS valid xhtml1.0 transitional!

2005/4/12 11:04
damaster
Just can't stay away
Posts: 556
Since: 2003/5/11

wanikoo, Quote:

P.S.My grandfather died a few days ago. so...
I'm so depressed now.

He would be proud of you, as some of us, for sure...
I still having my grand-father who teach me so much about life and sometimes i ask my self why ... why to spend such time here, better would be, with him...

shine, Quote:

I understand your hesitation about becoming one of the core developpers. But, looking at your input..... how about the suggestion Herko made at you Wanikoo?
Quote:

Quote:
I suggest Wanikoo joins as a virtual member so we can examine his team player qualities as well as his programming skills

I think this would be a nice 'in between step' for you! Sometimes people underestimate their own skills and experiences. By becoming a virtual coremember the devteam can examine your skills, experiences and teamplay. By following this roadmap you continue your personal development also

That also supposes certain people have some specific skills and especially a wise human experience!

Don't misunderstood me... somebody said, through an ergonomicist point of view, it seems some people working or managing with machines end up thinking and acting as machines themselves, forgetting the human one and his real needs.
Wanikoo give us his time and knowledge for free! What else can we see here?

Machine Skills vs Humain Skills !?

He don't need to be part of them, already being part of XOOPS community, he's free.

Wanikoo acts in the noblest way.
Thank you to give us the example.

Here your action has more value for all XOOPS users.
As your knowledge it's not lost and benefits all.

Thank you!

I like people more than machines or money. But that's me!
Lets do something good and great: Lets do open source!

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Re: Let's make XOOPS valid xhtml1.0 transitional!

2005/4/11 15:35
wanikoo
Not too shy to talk
Posts: 129
Since: 2003/12/27

XHTML 1.0 Transitional or XHTML 1.0 Strict ??
( or XHTML 1.1.....lol )

Umm...
I think lots of modification needed to make XOOPS valid xhtml1.0 Strict !

Quote:

from:
http://www.zvon.org/xxl/xhtmlReference/Output/comparison.html

Following transitional elements were removed from the Strict XHTML:
applet, basefont, center, dir, font, iframe, isindex, menu, noframes, s, strike, u.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Following attributes were removed from the Strict XHTML:
Attribute alink is forbidden on body.
Attribute background is forbidden on body.
Attribute bgcolor is forbidden on body, table, td, th, tr.
Attribute border is forbidden on img, object, it can be used on table.
Attribute clear is forbidden on br.
Attribute language is forbidden on script.
Attribute link is forbidden on body.
Attribute name is forbidden on form, img, it can be used on a, button, input, map, meta, object, param, select, textarea.
Attribute noshade is forbidden on hr.
Attribute nowrap is forbidden on td, th.
Attribute start is forbidden on ol.
Attribute target is forbidden on a, area, base, form, link.
Attribute text is forbidden on body.
Attribute type is forbidden on li, ol, ul, it can be used on a, button, input, link, object, param, script, style.
Attribute value is forbidden on li, it can be used on button, input, option, param.
Attribute vlink is forbidden on body.

mambo : XHTML 1.0 Transitional


<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">

<head>

<title>Official Demonstration Site - Home</title>

<meta name="description" content="Mambo - the dynamic portal engine and content management system" />

<meta name="keywords" content="mambo, Mambo" />

<meta name="Generator" content="Mambo - Copyright 2000 - 2005 Miro International Pty Ltd.  All rights reserved." />

<meta name="robots" content="index, follow" />

    <link rel="shortcut icon" href="http://mambo.mamboforge.net/demo/images/favicon.ico" />

    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />

<link href="http://mambo.mamboforge.net/demo/templates/rhuk_solarflare_ii/css/template_css.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"/>

</head>

xoops : XHTML 1.0 Transitional


<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">

<head>

<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" />

<meta http-equiv="content-language" content="en" />

<meta name="robots" content="index,follow" />

<meta name="keywords" content="XOOPS, news, technology, headlines, xoops, xoop, nuke, myphpnuke, myphp-nuke, phpnuke, SE, geek, geeks, hacker, hackers, linux, software, download, downloads, free, community, mp3, forum, forums, bulletin, board, boards, bbs, php, survey, poll, polls, kernel, comment, comments, portal, odp, open, source, opensource, FreeSoftware, gnu, gpl, license, Unix, *nix, mysql, sql, database, databases, web site, weblog, guru, module, modules, theme, themes, cms, content management" />

<meta name="description" content="XOOPS is an extensible, OO (Object Oriented), easy to use dynamic web content management system written in PHP. XOOPS is the ideal tool for developing small to large dynamic community websites, intra company portals, corporate portals, weblogs and much more." />

<meta name="rating" content="general" />

<meta name="author" content="XOOPS" />

<meta name="copyright" content="Copyright ?2001-2004, the XOOPS.org Project" />

<meta name="generator" content="XOOPS" />

<title>Official XOOPS Website - Powered by You!</title>

<link href="https://xoops.org/favicon.ico" rel="SHORTCUT ICON" />

<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="all" href="https://xoops.org/xoops.css" />

<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="all" href="https://xoops.org/themes/default/style.css" />

<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS" href="https://xoops.org/backend.php" />

<!-- RMV: added module header -->



<script type="text/javascript">

<!--

//--></script><script type="text/javascript" src="https://xoops.org/include/xoops.js"></script><script type="text/javascript"><!--

//-->

</script>

</head>

xaraya : XHTML 1.0 Strict


<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">

<head>

<base href="http://www.xaraya.org/ " />

<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="themes/xe1/style/combined_screen.css" media="screen" />

<script type="text/javascript" src="themes/xe1/scripts/nav.js"></script>

<link rel="shortcut icon" href="themes/xe1/images/favicon.ico" type="image/x-icon" />

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />

<meta name="Generator" content="Xaraya :: 0.9.11" />

<meta name="Keywords" content="" />

<meta name="Description" content="" />

<meta name="rating" content="General" />

<!-- Linking for Mozilla and related browser site tab -->

<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS" href="http://www.xaraya.org/?theme=rss" />

<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" title="Print" href="http://www.xaraya.org/?theme=print" />

<link rel="EditURI" type="application/rsd+xml" title="RSD" href="http://www.xaraya.org/index.php?module=xmlrpcserver" />

<link rel="pingback" href="http://www.xaraya.org/ws.php" />

<link rel="Top" type="text/html" href="http://www.xaraya.org/" />

<link rel="Parent" type="text/html" href="http://www.xaraya.org/" />

<link rel="author" href="mailto:info@xaraya.com" />

<link rel="contents" type="text/html" href="http://www.xaraya.org/index.php/articles/map/" />

<link rel="search" type="text/html" href="http://www.xaraya.org/index.php?module=search" />

<!--[if IE]>

<style type="text/css">img { behavior: url("themes/xe1/scripts/pngbehavior.htc");}</style>

<![endif]-->

<title>

Xaraya :: Welcome            </title>

<script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.xaraya.org/modules/tinymce/xartemplates/includes/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/tiny_mce.js"></script>

<script type="text/javascript">

tinyMCE.init({mode : "specific_textareas",theme : "advanced",document_base_url : "http://xaraya.com/",content_css : "http://xaraya.com/themes/xe1/style/xareditor.css",width : "200%", height : "450px", plugins : "emotions,zoom,preview,ibrowser,advlink,advhr,advimage,searchreplace,print,table", ask : "true",inline_styles : "true", force_p_newlines: "true",theme_advanced_toolbar_location : "top", theme_advanced_path_location: "bottom", theme_advanced_buttons2_add : "preview,zoom,ibrowser,insertdate", theme_advanced_buttons3_add : "emotions,advhr,search,replace,print,tablecontrols", extended_valid_elements : "ul[style|*],li[style|*],ol[style|*],table[float|style|id|name],p[float|style|id|name],dd[*],dl[*],dt[*],code,pre,th[*],blockquote/quote,a[float|style|id|name|href|title|onclick], img[float|style|class|src|border=0|alt|title|h", directionality : "ltr",language : "en" });</script>

</head>

drupal : XHTML 1.0 Strict


<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en">

<head>

<title>drupal.org | Community plumbing</title>

<meta http-equiv="Content-Style-Type" content="text/css" />

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />

<base href="http://drupal.org/" />

<style type="text/css" media="all">@import "misc/drupal.css";</style>

<style type="text/css">@import url(http://drupal.org/modules/codefilter/codefilter.css);</style>

<style type="text/css">@import url(http://drupal.org/modules/project/project.css);</style>

<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS" href="http://drupal.org/rss.xml" />

<style type="text/css" media="all">@import "themes/bluebeach/style.css";</style>  

<script type="text/javascript"> </script>

</head>

for reference:

http://www.7nights.com/asterisk/archive/2004/04/xhtml-10-strict-not-ready-for-prime-time
http://liorean.web-graphics.com/xhtml/comparison.loose-strict.html
http://www.zvon.org/xxl/xhtmlReference/Output/comparison.html
http://www.sitepoint.com/article/standards-compliant-world
http://www.sitepoint.com/article/xhtml-strict-popups
http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/REC-xhtml1-20020801/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd
XHTML 1.1:
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/

PS:
My grandfather died a few days ago.
so...
I'm so depressed now.

XOOPS Korean Support

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Re: Let's make XOOPS valid xhtml1.0 transitional!

2005/4/6 19:56
wanikoo
Not too shy to talk
Posts: 129
Since: 2003/12/27

----------------------------------------------------
pages which give us "Error:required attribute not specified"
----------------------------------------------------
Quote:

In an attribute declaration, #REQUIRED means that the attribute must always be provided, #IMPLIED that no default value is provided. [Definition: If the declaration is neither #REQUIRED nor #IMPLIED, then the AttValue value contains the declared default value; the #FIXED keyword states that the attribute must always have the default value. If a default value is declared, when an XML processor encounters an omitted attribute, it is to behave as though the attribute were present with the declared default value.

Refer to this page:
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd
( Just search/find with keyword, "#REQUIRED"

ex)
1) required attribute "alt" not specified
----------------------------
<!ELEMENT img EMPTY>
<!ATTLIST img
%attrs;
src %URI; #REQUIRED
alt %Text; #REQUIRED
name NMTOKEN #IMPLIED
longdesc %URI; #IMPLIED
height %Length; #IMPLIED
width %Length; #IMPLIED
usemap %URI; #IMPLIED
ismap (ismap) #IMPLIED
align %ImgAlign; #IMPLIED
border %Length; #IMPLIED
hspace %Pixels; #IMPLIED
vspace %Pixels; #IMPLIED
>
--------------------------

in case of admin.php

From:
<img src='http://~~/xoops/html/modules/system/images/menu.gif' />
To:
<img src='http://~~/xoops/html/modules/system/images/menu.gif' alt='' />

To fix this,
open /html/include/cp_functions.php,
and add attribute "alt"

2) required attribute "action" not specified
-----------------------------
<!ELEMENT form %form.content;>
<!ATTLIST form
%attrs;
action %URI; #REQUIRED
method (get|post) "get"
name NMTOKEN #IMPLIED
enctype %ContentType; "application/x-www-form-urlencoded"
onsubmit %Script; #IMPLIED
onreset %Script; #IMPLIED
accept %ContentTypes; #IMPLIED
accept-charset %Charsets; #IMPLIED
target %FrameTarget; #IMPLIED
>
---------------------------

/html/misc.php
line 86
<form name='avatars'>
To:
<form name='avatars' action='' >

--------To be continued---------------
Quote:

Giba wrote:
I am following daily this topic.

^^;; What a pressure!!

XOOPS Korean Support

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Re: Let's make XOOPS valid xhtml1.0 transitional!

2005/4/6 9:25
giba
Just can't stay away
Posts: 638
Since: 2003/4/26

@hello wanikoo

One off for you, rss

Quote:

------------------------------
After this modification,
we can get this message, "This Page Is Valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional!" from W3 validator.
-------------To be continued-----------

I am following daily this topic.
Every day already I come fast here to see if we have more new features.
It is certain of that we are using to advantage to correct many things nivel of validations therefore these its tips had opened our eyes for much thing that can and must be modified with urgency.

Thanks

in portuguese for my people.

Estou acompanhando diariamente este tópico.
Todos os dias já venho rapidinho aqui para ver se temos mais novidades.
Tenha certeza de que estamos aproveitando para corrigir muitas coisas a nivel de valida??es pois estas suas dicas abriram nossos olhos para muita coisa que pode e deve ser modificada com urgência.

Obrigado

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Re: Let's make XOOPS valid xhtml1.0 transitional!

2005/4/6 8:47
wanikoo
Not too shy to talk
Posts: 129
Since: 2003/12/27

------------------------------------------
pages which gives us "already defined ID error"
------------------------------------------
Quote:

An "id" is a unique identifier. Each time this attribute is used in a document it must have a different value. If you are using this attribute as a hock for style sheets it may be more appropriate to use classes (which group elements) than id (which are used to identify exactly one element).

ex)
XOOPS 2.0.10 RC
----------------page start
~~~
form1(with token1)
form2(with token2)
form3(with token3)
~~~
form#(with token#)
~~~
-----------------page end

rendered like this
----------------page start
~~~~
<form>
<input type='hidden' name='XOOPS_TOKEN_REQUEST' id='XOOPS_TOKEN_REQUEST' value='###1' />
</form>
<form>
<input type='hidden' name='XOOPS_TOKEN_REQUEST' id='XOOPS_TOKEN_REQUEST' value='###2' />
</form>
<form>
<input type='hidden' name='XOOPS_TOKEN_REQUEST' id='XOOPS_TOKEN_REQUEST' value='###3' />
</form>
~~
<form>
<input type='hidden' name='XOOPS_TOKEN_REQUEST' id='XOOPS_TOKEN_REQUEST' value='####' />
</form>
~~~~
----------------page end

same name, same id
so
this kind of page gives us some error message during validation check!

error message:
ID "XOOPS_TOKEN_REQUEST" already defined

ex) edituser.php in case of ($op == 'avatarform')

$form = new XoopsThemeForm(_US_UPLOADMYAVATAR, 'uploadavatar', 'edituser.php', 'post', true);

$form2 = new XoopsThemeForm(_US_CHOOSEAVT, 'uploadavatar', 'edituser.php', 'post', true);

rendered like this
$form:
<form name='uploadavatar' id='uploadavatar' action='edituser.php' method='post' onsubmit='return xoopsFormValidate_uploadavatar();' enctype="multipart/form-data">
$form2:
<form name='uploadavatar' id='uploadavatar' action='edituser.php' method='post' onsubmit='return xoopsFormValidate_uploadavatar();'>

same name and same id!!

error message:
ID "uploadavatar" already defined

Umm...
as you know,
when rendering,
id is determined like this.
-------
name='".$this->getName()."' id='".$this->getName()."'
------
I mean XOOPS form classes do have member variable,$_name but don't have member variable,$_id !!
in most case, it's OK!
but in some case mentioned above, it can cause error when validation check!!
Umm..
To avoid this trouble,
(At my first thought)
we may..need new variable, $_id and and new member function, getID()
because if we have them, we can designate different ID value to each case.
(especially in the case that $_id is not empty....)

------------------------------
After this modification,
we can get this message, "This Page Is Valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional!" from W3 validator.

-------------To be continued-----------

XOOPS Korean Support

26

Re: Let's make XOOPS valid xhtml1.0 transitional!

2005/4/6 8:30
MrWiseman
Just popping in
Posts: 3
Since: 2005/4/1 8

Um... excuse me. Why do you need to make it XHTML compilant? What users need when browsing a site is not the latest, furious standard compilance, but a fast, minimalist, non-bloated HTML. Ever noticed how Google is so blazingly-fast? Take a look at the HTML you're receiving - this is one of the reasons. XOOPS could implement a filter to optimized HTML by replacing all these <br /> by <br>, remove </td>, </tr>, etc., get rid of double spaces (CR and LF are also spaces), and so on, if you want it to be faster.

25

Re: Let's make XOOPS valid xhtml1.0 transitional!

2005/4/6 8:06
Shine
Just can't stay away
Posts: 822
Since: 2002/7/22

Quote:

wanikoo wrote:
Quote:

Gambero wrote:
Why isn't wanikoo in XOOPS Core development Team ?
And like you said he just need to ask. So, wanikoo: ASK!

Gambero, you are so generous!
but...my answer is "NO...more exactly NOT YET"
because I don't have enough skill and experience yet.
but
I will continue to develop myself more and more....for D-day(--;;)

I understand your hesitation about becoming one of the core developpers. But, looking at your input..... how about the suggestion Herko made at you Wanikoo?
Quote:

I suggest Wanikoo joins as a virtual member so we can examine his team player qualities as well as his programming skills

I think this would be a nice 'in between step' for you! Sometimes people underestimate their own skills and experiences. By becoming a virtual coremember the devteam can examine your skills, experiences and teamplay. By following this roadmap you continue your personal development also

Grtz., Shine

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